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Resoluções

Um efeito secundário de estar fora do país durante a passagem do ano é que não comecei o ano com a onda (ainda que temporária) de abstinência e boas intenções. Até no segundo dia do ano, nem sequer consegui de vestir roupas normais. Correr, fazer Yoga, escrever blogues e todas as atividades valorosos que me prometi fazer ficaram para qualquer outro dia.

A minha filha também não fez nada. Declarámos (com acento*) amanhã o primeiro dia do ano. Ontem e hoje não contam.

*This set off a whole new wave of discussion when a second Brazilian corrector told me it was wrong about accents in the pretérito tense. If you’re curious, this is what finally reconciled the cognitive dissonance on the subject!

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Bravo

Interested to see this meme pop up on a Brazilian Monty Python fan account.

What’s so surprising? Well, bravo is a false friend. It doesn’t mean corajoso, it means raivoso: angry in other words. Or rude and uncouth.

I asked around and found out that bravo means either “brave” or “angry” in Brazil. And of course they chose the word in this meme because they were dovetailing it with the English words of the song. It actually can mean brave in Portugal too but its very, very unusual, as you can probably imagine – it must be confusing as hell to have one adjective that can mean two different things and could plausibly mean either of them in a lot of everyday contexts. It’s the eighth meaning given in the dictionary, so it’s worth knowing, but probably best avoided in everyday speech.

Even weirder, there is a regional word, brabo, which means angry and is a synonym (but not a mis-spelling, apparently!) or bravo and means angry (but definitely not brave!) it’s the first I’ve heard of it and only one (brazilian) guy mentioned it, so although it is in Priberam, this seems obscure enough that you can probably ignore it.

Update: a few more replies have come in and reminded me that, of course, bravo can also mean “well done”, just as it does in English.

I mentioned “rude or um uncouth” as possible meanings but maybe I should have gone for something like “rough” or “uncultured” since it can be used in relation to food to mean something like “wild” – espargos bravos =wild asparagus, carne brava= grass fed beef, etc. A sea can be bravo of it is rough and stormy, and there’s a type of apple called Maçã Bravo de Esmolfe. Yes, bravo, not Brava, even though maçã is feminine.

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Paris

Two texts based on our recent trip to France with corrections

A minha esposa irá trabalhar no hospital durante a noite da passagem do ano. Eu e a minha filha vamos hoje para* Paris para celebrar o novo ano porque será mais divertido do que ver televisão sozinhos. Ela está a aprender francês, portanto podemos fingir que a viagem é “trabalho de casa” em vez de um desperdício de dinheiro.

Customers queuing outside Shakespeare and Company in Paris
Shakespeare and Company, Paris

Pela segunda vez neste ano, ficámos** numa fila para entrar numa loja. Desta vez, foi a Shakespeare and Company. A visita correu mil vezes melhor do que a na Lello. A Lello parece uma lata de sardinhas cheia de clientes***. A S&C é uma livraria fixe, com menos pessoas e além disso é proibido tirar fotografias. Acreditem ou não, os clientes entram para comprar livros e não para fazer cara de pato nas escadas. Adorei.

*I used “a” instead of “para” here but that would be more of a fleeting visit, not a two day jaunt.

**This was the text that triggered my post about Brazilian portuguese a couple of days ago

***I used “um chouriço enchido de clientes” because that appealed to me. It’s been changed to a more conventional portuguese expression. I think simile works OK, but there are other expressions using chouriço-stuffing so it’s probably a bit confusing. Encher chouriços means to waffle: to fill in time or pad out speech or essay with boring filler.

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Divided by a Common Language: the Aftermath

I mentioned a couple of days ago that I had been incorrectly corrected by a Brazilian tutor who had taken exception to my use of the word “ficámos”. History seems to have vindicated my position: I was right and managed to get this across without offending the fella who had incorrected me. The following day, I used a different verb in the same tense – declarámos – and was corrected by a different Brazilian guy. Bless ’em. I guess they’re new teachers, maybe being helpful as a new years resolution and I’m sure they’ll be a big help once they figure out how to differentiate between the European and Brazilian learners.

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O Ano Sabático

O Ano Sabático se João Tordo

O Ano Sabático é um livro de João Tordo que conta a história dum músico português que mora na Canadá. Durante uma crise pessoal, o protagonista regressa para Lisboa onde fica obcecado com um outro músico cujo concerto inclui uma peça de música exatamente igual à sua própria obra. Fica convencido de que os dois têm uma ligação. É um livro assombroso que me deixou com muitas perguntas!

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Divided by a Common Language

I wrote something the other day that included the word “ficámos” as a past tense of ficar, meaning “we stayed”, and a Brazilian guy has told me it should be ‘ficamos”. I’ve told him that I am pretty sure this is one of those differnces between PT-PT and PT-BR: Portugal uses an -ámos ending in the past perfect, but in Brazil -amos is used for both present and perfect (lol, no scope for confusion there!) but he’s insisting that no, his way is correct. I feel a little arrogant contradicting someone whose native language is portuguese but I’m pretty sure I’m right on this one so I’m just ignoring the bloke and carrying on regardless.

Priberam (portuguese) on the left vs conjugação.com (brazilian) on the right

As I mentioned a few months ago in my comparison of the two types of Portuguese, Brazil has a larger media and a more powerful cultural impact in the world so they don’t always notice the smaller group of people speaking the European variant across the atlantic. The same is true of the US media hegemony co-opting English. There’s no use complaining (*pauses to wipe away bitter British tears*), it just is what it is. So if you’re asking someone for advice or corrections, it’s best to say what variant you’re learning to avoid misunderstandings, but if someone tries to help and gets it wrong (like this bloke is doing, I think) you have to be sensitive in how you reply. Anyone who honestly tries to help someone online is a good person. If they get it wrong from time to time, that doesn’t make them bad: a gentle reminder should sort things out with no hurt feelings. I used to have a portuguese friend who would absolutely lay into Brazilian teachers who corrected European portuguese learners but I think she was being unreasonable and I’d always try to calm her down because it made me cringe to think that someone had tried to help me and was getting a verbal battering for their troubles. I definitely don’t want to do that, but I’m going to politely suggest that I think he’s mistaken!

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New Year, New Uwu

Feliz Ano Novo, fellow slaves to the grammar. May 2023 bring us all the linguistic wins we so richly deserve!

We were in France for the new year. France is a country to the south of us where they speak a language that’s a bit like portuguese but not as good. We’ve only been here a couple of days to see in the new year and it has been lovely, but we’re waiting for the Eurostar to take us home. The announcer has just told us that owing to the bad weather, the platform is slippery and “please take special care of it”, which I just find delightful, imagining myself tucking the platform into bed, giving it some camomile tea and a foot massage and tiptoeing out of the room. Aww, so cute!

As usual, it’s hard work, communicating in French. I used to be reasonably fluent so long as the conversation didn’t get too heavy. Now, every time I open my mouth, portuguese verbs elbow their way to the front of my tongue, shoving French conjugations out of the way. Sometimes I can get pretty far into crazy mishmashes of the two and it leaves me feeling a bit awkward. My daughter is better but she is a bit self-conscious too. She does a great job in what she plans to say but doesn’t like to speak spontaneously. We have a competition of who can go longest without “getting Englished” – in other words, making the person we’re speaking to just start speaking to us in our own language because it’s easier.

There’s no reason to be self-conscious though. Speaking someone else’s language is absolutely a compliment to them. It shows you’ve made an effort, and it’s basically always appreciated, whereas just launching into English is arrogant and douchey, so just go for it, and if it doesn’t work out, well, no worries, try again. What’s the worst that can happen? Well, short of picking the wrong words and accidentally buying twitter or divulging your location to the Romanian police, the worst most people can imagine is being laughed at. Is that really likely though? Would you ever laugh at someone from overseas speaking your language? And even if someone laughs, is it going to be malicious laughter? Again, it seems unlikely. Sometimes you might just trigger someone’s delighted reaction at an odd combination of words, like the French train announcer who’s concerned about the wellbeing of the platform, but that’s ok. Keep a sense of humour about it, and you’re all good.

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Presentes Caseiros

Happy Christmas! Today’s text is a couple of days old but I’m revising my corrections while I wait for the teenager to finish her shower so it seemed like a good chance to show off the present she made me at the same time.

Lolly Adefope as Kitty in BBC Ghosts
Kitty, uma personagem do “Ghosts”, protagonizada por Lolly Adefope

Todos nós gostamos de presentes, certo? Para mim, a melhor espécie de presente é o caseiro. Não custam nada, ou quase nada, mas precisam de mais esforço e mais imaginação. Tenho em casa vários marcadores de livros, dois potes de barro e um cachecol entre outras coisas. Dou-lhes mais valor do que qualquer outro presente, independentemente do que tenha custado*.

*My original final sentence was too much of a literal translation so this whole sentence is an alternative suggested by the corrector.

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Estou a Gostar Deste Livro

This is a pretty simple text I wrote the other day Poyoduhmerduh corrected it (thanks!) and suggested a title change. I had originally written it as “Estou a Curtir Este Livro”, trying to use curtir, meaning “enjoy”, as in the lyrics of Sol da Caparica, but although this way of talking has been part of yoof slang in the past, its not really common now in Portugal. Its more of a Brazilian thing.

João Tordo - O Ano Sabático

Estou a ler “O Ano Sabático” de João Tordo (o livro do qual tirei a citação de ontem). É muito bom. Demorei muito tempo antes de ficar entusiasmado mas agora que estou agarrado, estou muito ansioso para averiguar* o que está a acontecer!

*Bit of a formal word this but I wanted to use it to make it stick in my head. It’s as if I’d written “ascertain” instead of “find out”.