OK, not the most modest post title I’ve ever written, but seriously, every time I’ve tried Quina, I’ve managed to get the answer even though it’s insanely difficult. Each time, I get half way though and think “there’s just no way I can do this”. I make silly mistakes, don’t feel like I’ve any solid ground to stand on, and yet, by the end, I pull a rabbit out of the hat.
Ceifa means harvest, by the way. Specifically, it seems to mean harvest using a scythe (gadanha) or sickle (foice), so maybe it means more like “reaping”. And it has a related verb, ceifar, in case you’re wondering.
This guy asked if José Milhazes (he’s the guy in this video and the author of this book) was just a “Todólogo”. I couldn’t find it anywhere but as it turns out, that’s because he’d misspelled it. It should be tudólogo with a U. The suffix “-ólogo” is the equivalent of “-ologist”. And a tudo-ólogo is an everythingolohist. A know-it-all in other words. Someone who acts like an expert on everything but doesn’t really know anything.
I tried to make a joke in a discussion about a previous post and it didn’t work so here’s a very laboured discussion of when and whether “In Soviet Russia” jokes can work in portuguese. It was always going to be a challenging text and, sure enough, I made lots of errors. For me, the tricky part if how to emphasise the reversal at the end. I want it to land hard on the “you” at the end. I’m sure I’ve seen this done in portuguese by doubling up in the pronoun – like “Parece-me a mim…” but I don’t think I really stuck the landing on any of these attempts.
Este texto é uma tentativa de recriar uma piada antiga. Tentei copiar o formato duma resposta a um comentário da Dani, mas acho que não funciona.
Em inglês, o modelo é assim (imaginem que o falante é um russo num programa americano). “Here in America, is very good, everyone watch television. In old country, television watch you!”(1)
Muitos destas piadas não funcionam se forem traduzidas literalmente: “Nos Estados Unidos podes sempre encontrar uma festa. Na Rússia, o partido encontra-te sempre a ti” é engraçado em inglês porque “festa” e “partido” traduzem-se ambos* como “party”, mas em português, nem por isso.
O mais difícil, acho eu, é como enfatizar a inversão dos pronomes. Acho que preciso de usar a forma Verbo hífen pronome indireto [a] pronome subjetivo. Vamos experimentar alguns…
“Nos Estados Unidos, toda a gente vê televisão. Na Rússia** Soviética a televisão vê-te a ti”
Ou talvez “…vê-nos a nós”
No Reino Unido,comem-se nabos. Na Rússia, os nabos comem-te comem-vos a você
Ou talvez “…tu comes nabos…” ***
Hum… A forma “você” parece demasiado formal para uma piada…?
Em Portugal não se tem bico-de-obra, bico-de-obra tem-te a ti****.
Em português, conjugam-se os verbos. Na Rússia soviética, os verbos conjugam-te a ti.
O que acham? O Bruno Nogueira anda preocupado que eu roubo-lhe o emprego?
(1) A conjugação do verbo em inglês está errada, mas vou ignorar. Se as minhas flexões todas estão erradas, não é deliberado, é um lapso.
* Ambos (“both”) goes after the verb, unlike in English.
**The corrector suggested changing this to ‘na União Sovietica’ which is technically right, but I think the joke format tends to be “In Soviet Russia”, not “In the Soviet Union”
*** Although você is formal, it can be used in jokes if the formality is relevant to the situation. It would have been better in the tu form though.
**** This was the original joke I tried to make, leading to my deciding to write this post. When I first tried it, in the reddit comments under a previous text, it looked like this:
And in case you’re wondering who João Neves is, well, translate his name…
OK definitely in a learning slump. No energy to do anything. No energy to post here, listen to anything, even read my book. I’m just a big monolingual potato at the moment. I need to snap out of it.
I saw a bad translation in a vocabulary app: embater =to hit. Well, why is it not just bater? Bater seems to be one of those words that has been used as a rooot to make other verbs, and embater can mean hit if you want to say something like “The car hit a tree”, but it’s more like a collision than a punch. The way it works is…
Bater = To Strike, Beat, Hit. The vanilla version. How you translate it depends on the pronoun, to a certain extent.
Embater = Collide, crash
Abater = Slaughter, cull
Combater = Combat, counteract
There’s also esbater (to blur) and debater (to debate) but I don’t think those are part of the same family since they aren’t as violent.
I seem to write a lot about Bater. I wrote a whole post on it a while ago and… Have I posted this meme already? I feel like I must have. It’s pretty old and there are loads of copies so I don’t know who to attribute it to.
I’ve been noticing in the last few days I keep getting “likes” in old posts, and always the most boring, obscure homeworky ones too, not the fun ones. Of course I should have guessed, they’re all the ones with “exercise” in the name and some people are using bots to publicise their health-related blogs by dropping random likes on any post with a relevant keyword in the name. The Internet is a pointless place sometimes.
